» How do you think that your position as Crown Princess can make a difference? Does it matter that it is a Crown Princess, who is an advocate for these cases?
"I have a hard time saying anything about it. There must be others who can put into words too. But I am aware that my position provides special opportunities. I also believe, however, that my really good and really big opportunities are due to my long-term commitment. Eg. the invitations, today I get to keep talking, which is a chance I would not have gotten a few years ago."
» So it's about professionalism - it is not enough to be royal?
"Yes, I think. Clearly. Professionalism
must be in order to be invited to special events, speak at conferences,
be part of a task force and meet special people, for example. Otherwise, you get a different type of invitations, and I will not
feel good to be in charge of anything unless I have a deep and broad
knowledge of the issue," answers the Crown Princess and continues after
verge teen.
"Because
of my position, but also my commitment - that people know is true when
they meet me," said the Crown Princess and laughs a little. "Then I can also open doors both for myself and for others. For I am very conscious that I sometimes can not speak on the matter. So it's important that I may have others, so that together we can come all the way around," she points out.
Facts: Crown Princess Mary as patron
Berlingske has asked the three humanitarian organizations that the Crown Princess is patron of what it means to them.
» The Crown Princess' effort is very important. She
is an excellent advocate, and what she does is that she spreads the
message out to a larger audience and explains that this is an important
agenda if we want to make the world a peaceful place. People listen not just because she is the Crown Princess, but also because she is very committed. Head of the UN Population Fund since 2010, Babatunde Osotimehin.
» The
Crown Princess is very important for the Danish Refugee Council,
because she dishes a great light on our work with refugees and displaced
persons. This
is both because she speaks from the platform she speaks from and
because she is engaged and interested in the issues we are dealing with. Secretary General of the Danish Refugee Council, Andreas Kamm.
» As patron of the Maternity Foundation, the Crown Princess is a great catalyst and sparring partner. As
a small Danish NGO has had huge significance to have her support, when
we had to present our work in international forums such as during the UN General Assembly in New York last year. Director of the Maternity Foundation, Anna Cecilia Frellsen.
» And
what does not being able to talk about all aspects of the case, when you know that you are so academically engaged and knowledgeable mean for the Crown Princess? What does it mean to be limited?
"Of course I have opinions and views, and some are stronger than
others, but I am very aware of where and how far I can go in expressing
them," is the answer from the Crown Princess.
"But it is not always easy, because it is a gray area. I
fully understand the limitations of a Crown Princess, but I choose not
to see them as limitations, for I have a wide margin, and I can speak
about very much, and sometimes it can mean that you have to think a little creatively and talk about a topic from a
different angle," says Princess Mary, stressing that it is also an
advantage for her that she must be impartial.
"When we talk about opening doors, I'm a big believer in working together and lift together. Then I might pave the way and give the word to others who can take the more sensitive issues. And actually, I would say that I get special access and special opportunities just because I am impartial. So
sometimes it's an advantage and take a subject like respect for women's
and girls' rights, there is broad agreement, and it gives me more
leeway. "
» Yes, there is broad agreement, but are there also forces that oppose?
"Yes, there are powerful forces in the world that will roll what we achieved back. And it is enormously sad, especially because we know that all evidence
points to that it will be important for all of us if women and girls
have the same opportunities as men and boys. "
» Does it matter in this context that the Crown Princess will represent Denmark? Is Denmark a good brand to have in the back when you are a patron of the women and refugees?
"In my experience, it has given me a good background that I come from Denmark. For
Denmark is seen as a pioneer in terms of equality and as a strong and
unwavering advocate of women's and girls' rights, particularly on SRHR," answers the Crown Princess, referring to Sexual and Reproductive Health
and Rights (SRHR). The
UN jargon for the goal that every sexual act must be free of coercion
and disease that every pregnancy should be wanted and every birth must
be sound and all - women and men - have access to birth control and has
the right to decide over their own bodies.
"So it makes me tailwind, and because of Denmark's position and the
general consensus on the subject at home, so I might have gotten more
opportunities to comment on these matters."
» What do you do in a typical day out. How much work is there with the three patronages?
"There are many internal and external meetings with partners, patronages etc. There is much work at the desk with preparations - including travel inventory - and writing speeches. And so it is important to keep abreast of current issues. By nature, I am extremely thoroughly. I have been brought up to always give my best and do my best, and I always try to do. And then I think my curiosity is a major driving force. I am for instance preoccupied with negative social norms and how we can change them. There
will be more and more evidence about - yes social norms and the theory
of change - how to get detached social norms of a culture, and it
concerns me very much, because it can have a major influence on many of
the issues I am dealing with. But then a typical working day, it is a little hard to describe. It depends on a calendar," said the Crown Princess.
» What are you thinking as patron of the Danish Refugee Council with
the current refugee crisis seen worse since the Second World War?
"Yes, it is a major global challenge, and it is immensely sad. The refugees I have spoken to say that their greatest wish is to return home and build their lives and their country. There
are many countries that are struggling to find a solution, but the
world must unite and act like a total flock to find a viable solution. It is the biggest challenge overall, but from my perspective it is
also about how vulnerable women and girls are in such a humanitarian
crisis.
For
example, 60 percent of the total maternal mortality worldwide occurs in
crisis areas, and women and girls on the run are extra vulnerable
because they often travel alone. Many may have lost their husbands, others fleeing alone while the man stays behind to fight. The
women are all very alone in a culture that demands that a woman has a
male protector, and therefore they are more vulnerable to abuse and
rape. So
we need to have more focus on their specific needs and how we protect
this very large and vulnerable group of women and girls in the
humanitarian crisis as refugees stream is.
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But
when you meet some of these women - who I have had the opportunity - we
can not help but be humbled and impressed by their will and strength
and their innovative thinking in survival for themselves and for the
children. The most important thing for these women is how they can provide their children a better life and it is a powerful resource.
It may sound cynical to talk about resource in this regard, but we need to look at women that way. For it shows what they manage to lift if they are given opportunities. We must not look at them as weak - they are not. They are exposed, but not weak, and it is striking. We strengthen the women, it all comes down to others - even when we
are talking about refugee camps," said the Crown Princess, which
welcomes the UN Population Fund has put extra focus on improving the
situation of maternal health in the world's refugee camps.
"I met nearly three years ago, two heavily pregnant Syrian women in Zaatari camp in Jordan. They both had two children already, so it was not the first time they gave birth. But
before they had given birth on a fine hospital by a qualified midwife
and a gynaecologist who followed them throughout their pregnancy progress and
so on. Now they stood there in a refugee camp, and they were so thankful that we were there, for they were afraid. They knew just exactly how bad it can get. For a woman, obstetric help can be just as important and life-saving as water,
food and shelter," says the Crown Princess, who as patron of the Danish
Refugee Council has now visited some refugee camps around the world.
"And many of the fates, you talk to, come close. Many
of the families had a fine house, two cars, took their children to
school and went to restaurants on weekends, and from one day to the
next, they flee for their lives and are in a refugee camp. It
was very tough, and you are deeply affected, but at the same time I
believe that it is hugely important to try to see past the distress to
see the man. That
way I can be more ready to hear their stories, and these stories have
really big impact when they retold in other contexts - for example, from
a rostrum of the United Nations or a secondary school in Denmark. And it's something I can do. I can be a voice for some of the people I meet on my travels. Their stories hitting us and makes us think about the inequality of opportunity."
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» Are there other resources that Crown Princess takes the need to get our message across?
"Yes,
I strongly believe in working together and therefore I use my role, the
profile I have, to gather strength and relevant actors to work towards a
common goal. This could be violence against women. When
I was in South Africa, I met an organization called Brothers for Life,
and when you talk about violence against women, one needs to see men as
part of the solution and not just as a problem. If we really want to break the cycle of violence, we must have a holistic approach to it. Brothers
for Life works with men as role models for other men to break with the
norm that says that it is okay to beat your nearest. They
do a fantastic job and has some success in South Africa, and we have
Dialogue against Violence, and the organization has many years of
experience in how to help violent men to break their behaviour. So
through the Mary Foundation, I have brought organizations together to
create cooperation and knowledge sharing in which both parties can learn
something. On the way, I have benefited greatly from the network that I have been built up over the years."
» They
even mention the Mary Foundation, which works to combat social isolation
and trying to get items that are hard to talk about into the public
debate. Is there anything that the Mary Foundation can do to remedy what many
viewed as a major problem at home - namely the lack of integration of
parts of Muslim women?
"Women's and girls' rights should apply to everyone in Denmark. We should all have equal opportunities. But having said that, it is unfortunately still a very political area, and therefore I must find the right angle. It is an area where I, through the Mary Foundation have already committed through our shelters. The shelters in Denmark host a large majority of women of different ethnic backgrounds, so we actually have no knowledge of them. And we have also had good cooperation with shelters in Morocco and
therefore can better understand the cultural sensitivities that might
be," answers the Crown Princess.
"It's
some other social norms that are in play, and it is there that my
knowledge of and interest in social norms could come into play. So yes, it is an area I would like to have a deeper understanding of. "
